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Subject: The 21 Trillion Year Old Hologram.            April 4, 1999.

  Here is some of our history for the last 21 trillion years.

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The ET Global Connection: A Lecture by Alex Collier
Original transcript by Val Valerian
Part 1
Although many elements contained within this December 1995 lecture are
basically
unverifiable, the synchonicity with the material presented by Drunvalo
Melchizedek, especially in his video presentations on the Light and Dark
Brotherhood and his lecture at the Conclave of Michael Conference in 
Banff, Canada in 1994 make this material so highly interesting that it 
demands presentation in The Leading Edge. Relate it to other material 
and decide yourself. Together with other material in existence, it
appears to have a bearing on the immediate future of the planet and all 
its inhabitants.
(Legend: AC- Alex Collier Q-Audience questioner).
Introduction:
AC: Hello, I'm Alex Collier. In the last 31 years I have been given so 
much information, that I would ask you to write down your questions, 
otherwise it may not be brought up. There are some positive aspects to 
the information, and there is some information that is not very positive. 
There is absolutely nothing we cannot resolve, if we stick together. 
What I mean by that is that we don't turn on each other. To have us 
turn on each other is definitely something that they are trying to get 
us to do - to divide us. The problems in the world that we have on the 
government level are just a symptom of a much bigger problem. I
believe it was Bill Cooper, much to his credit, who said several years 
ago - when you put the ET's in the middle of this thing, it absolutely 
makes sense.
 He's absolutely right. I am going to be presenting the Andromedan
perspective as to what is going on, who we are, and some material about 
our past history. They have comments about all of our history.
I have been a contactee for 31 years. It has not been consistent for 31
years, but it has been consistent since 1985. The first contact was in 
the upper peninsula of Michigan in a place called Woodstock. In 1964 I 
was on a family picnic. I went out to play with cousins, and I laid on 
the grass. The next thing I remember is that it was night time. They 
could not find me. I had missing time. I did not remember anything until 
age 14. We went back to the area where I had been sleeping. My body 
print was there. My mom, dad and a Michigan State Trooper swore up and 
down that they had looked for me. I wasn't there. So, it was one of 
those dilemma's. At age 14, I went to bed on a normal August night. I
woke up and found myself on a platform. There were two men standing over 
me, a short one and a very tall one. They were both very handsome. On a
soul-level, I had absolute recognition of who they were. The tall one, 
Moraney, had light blue skin. Vasais, the shorter one, was much older, 
and his skin was whitish, having lost most of the blue pigmentation.
The Andromedans are a very very old race. Apparently, all of the human 
race comes from Lyrae. There is a lot of information about this. Billy 
Meier also talks about it. The human race did not originally exist in 
Lyrae - it came from some other galaxy but first began to evolve in 
our galaxy in the Lyran system.
 According to the Andromedans, there are over 135 billion human beings 
in the 8 galaxies closest to ours. Now, there are also other races out
there. Some of these races have had a lot of conflicts with the human 
race, and that conflict continues. But, there are things that are 
happening that will hopefully alleviate that problem. It comes down to 
philosophies, more than anything else.
 The Andromedans are a telepathic race. Moraney, over the last ten 
years, has learned to use his vocal chords. The reason that the 
newsletter here is called Letters From Andromeda, is because the first 
words that Moraney said to me when I went on board one time were 
"another letter". He was trying to convey the idea of "meeting", and 
had been trying to search for the word. The Andromedans care really 
deeply about what is going on, and a lot of it apparently has to do
with who we are as souls, who we are genetically, and it also has to do 
with the uture - a future in which we will probably be in other 
physical forms. We' re talking about the future between now and 357 
years from now.

Our Universe is a Hologram:

To us, some may say "that doesn't matter, I won't be here." But as far 
as other extraterrestrial races are concerned, they will be here. Many 
of them live from an average of 1,000 to 1,500 years. The Andromedans 
live to an average of 2,007 years. The "years" that I am going to be 
giving you as a measure of time are linear - it's the only way I can 
give it to you. They do not look at time the same way we do. Just keep 
that in mind. They say that our universe, which consists of everything 
that we do and don't know about, is a 21 trillion year-old hologram. 
That's what they say. They say that all the matter that is in our 
universe came out of black holes. Under every galaxy, they say there is
a black hole from whence everything came. How they have described it is 
that there was a universe that was evolving (when they mean evolve, 
they mean that the frequency of that universe continues to evolve), and 
as the universe evolved, those energies that did not want to evolve or 
were holding themselves back because they were full of fear started to 
"gain weight," so to speak. These energies, which include consciousness, 
formed "sacks", which got "heavier".
  As the universe raises in frequency (colour and sound), the pockets of
resistance break and explode out. This scenario is apparently what is 
beginning to happen now in our universe, 21 trillion years after its 
creation.
  Everything in in our universe, including us, came from a black hole. 
The Andromedans say there is no age to us. We truly are infinite. You 
can take that any way you want. According to Vasais and Moraney, on 
March 23rd of 1994 a specific colour and sound frequency began to 
eminate from all the black holes in the known universe. In terms of 
their science, which goes back a long way, this is the first time this 
has ever happened. What this energy and frequency is doing is that it 
is creating a holographic impression throughout all dimensional levels,
of which they say there are eleven creational densities. This new
holographic impression has become a 12th density. They say that this 
new holographic impression has one frequency - that it does not carry 
a duality within it.  What this frequency is doing is that it is 
pulling up all the dimensional levels below it. They say that by 
December 2013, third density as we know it here will cease to exist - 
it is imploding in on itself as everything is being drawn up.  Those on 
the 11th are going to 12th. We are supposed to go to 4th and then
to 5th density. From the Andromedan perspective, 4th density is a
consciousness. It is where an entire race is telepathic with each other, 
they are aware of each other, they feel each other - they are of one 
mind, separate individuals but still one. Fifth density is where we 
would be considered from the third density as being light. They say 
that this is what is going to happen to us, no later than 2013, based 
on their science. Do I know if this is right? I will know when you 
know, but they have not been wrong yet.  Now, there are individual 
consciousnesses which have appeared in this 12th density holographic 
consciousness. They apparently are like nothing that has ever been 
seen before. The Andromedans don't know who they are, what they are,
and don't know even how to describe them. But, apparently these 12th
dimensional beings have the capability to gaze down through all of the 
dimensions and see everything that is going on there. That is all I 
know about that. Why is this happening?
 As all this is happening, certain essences are starting to "gain 
weight" [See Fig 1]  (JW  My computer can't project figures so we won't 
be able to see this figure.) because the frequency shifting is "pulling 
everything up."  Those energies that are regressive are starting to 
"freak out". According to the Andromedans, every single one of us on 
planet Earth and 21 other star systems in our galaxy apparently consist 
of a group of beings, individual conciousnesses, that apparently evolved 
some trillions of years ago to the 11th density. An experiment was 
conceived where beings would drop down into the concept of time and 
experiment with our thoughts creating physical matter. They say that
apparently a large group of us dropped down into 3rd density and found a
specific race already there with a very specific genetic coding 
involving 22 different extraterrestrial races. All life on Earth was 
brought here by traders (Earth lies along a galactic trade route), 
explorers, miners, joy-riders - all different people. Originally, the 
Earth was in a different orbit, closer to Mars, and nothing but ice.

The Draconians and the Paa Tal:

The Alpha Draconians, a reptilian race composed of master geneticists,
tinker with life - which from their perspective exists as a natural 
resource. The Draconians look at lifeforms which they have created or 
altered as a natural resource. Apparently, the Alpha Draconians created 
the primate race, which was first brought to Mars and then to Earth. 
The primate race was then tinkered with by many other different races - 
21 other races - resulting in the primate race having been modified 
22 times. This primate race eventually became Homo Sapien Sapiens. - 
who we are on a physical level. Yes, we used to have 12 strands of
DNA. Ten strands were taken out by a group from Orion in order to 
control us and hold us back. Why would they want to hold us back?
 The reason the Orion group wanted to hold us back was because they 
found out who we were on a soul level. Again, according to the 
Andromedans, we humans are part of a group of energies that they know 
of as the Paa Tal. The reason that the Andromedans use the word Paa 
Tal, which is by the way a Draconian word, is because the Draconians 
have legends about warring with a race that was creating human life 
forms that were opposed to Draconian philosophy. The Paa Tal created
life forms that could evolve on their own, with free expression. The
Draconians, on the other hand, created races to function as a natural 
resource for their pleasure. So, you have two very different 
philosophies.

Part 2.

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Subject: The 21 Trillion Year Old Hologram.  Part 2.   April 4, 1999.

  This part deals with time travel.

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Well, how the Orion group found out who we were was through our extreme 
span of emotions. We are very very different than all the other races. 
Even the Andromedans do not understand how we could hate one minute and 
five minutes later be loving and snuggling. On one trip I was brought on 
board a ship, and Vasais was watching a monitor floating in the middle 
of the room that had an Earth news broadcast on it where a policeman 
had shot a bl-ck man and then had run up to him and tried to save his 
life. To Vasais, there wasn't a clue why the policeman would do this. I 
couldn't explain it to him, because I don't even understand it. They are 
perplexed why we could be this incredible race, and have the abilities 
that we have, and be so h-ll-bent on destroying ourselves.
Another time I came on board and Moraney was looking at Earth while
monitoring all these meters analyzing the atmosphere of Earth. He looked 
very sad, and I asked him what the matter was. He said, "don't they 
understand that all of this is here because they needed it?" They don't 
understand how we can just destroy our environment. It's not like we 
have another place to go. We don't.

Humans Have The Ability to Create Without Technology:

We have the ability - each one of us - even though we may not feel like 
it, on a spiritual level, to time travel, to create anything without 
technology. The reason we can do that is because of who we are and 
because our extremes of emotion. According to the Andromedans, it is the 
male aspect of ourselves that creates the thought and the feminine aspect 
of ourselves that makes things manifest through emotion. Now, third 
density is incredibly dense and a lot of extraterrestrial races don't 
like to hang out here. The best example I could give about density 
resistance is if you moved your hand through a bathtub of jello. That's 
how third density is viewed by those not here. The Andromedans say
that proof of how awesome humans are is demonstrated by the fact that 
we can literally create this third density. As slow as third density is, 
our intent can literally create anything here. The Andromedans cannot 
do this without technology. This world we live on, each one of us help 
to create. It literally is us, and we are it. We are literally one. We 
created this place. They don't understand why we would want to destroy 
it.

The Hierarchy in Our Galaxy:

There are two schools of thought in our galaxy. There are the 
regressives, who are races that carry fear and because of that want to 
control others. The hierarchy of the regressives starts with a group 
from Alpha Draconis. The Andromedans have no idea where the Alpha 
Draconians came from, but what they have learned through interaction 
with other dimensional races is that somebody brought the Draconians 
to this universe and "dumped" them in the Alpha Draconis system, where 
they had the highest probability of survival. According to the
Andromedans, the Alpha Draconians have had space travel for 4 billion 
years.
They are an incredible race and have achieved great things, but they 
are bullies. They are jerks, and that's a judgement - I'm taking that 
judgement myself. That's my judgement based on what I know about them. 
The Draconians do not like human beings. The Andromedans say that 
Draconians believe that this universe was here for them - that their 
history teaches them that they were left here to rule it. But, when 
they started traveling, they ran across other races.
They were able to conquer many of those races through genetic 
manipulation.

Now, our government, the Un-ted St-tes gov-rnment, the N-w Wo-ld 
Or-er - whatever you want to call it - wants to implant everybody. 
>From the Andromedan perspective that means ownership. Extraterrestrials 
don't want to bother with that stuff, since that is not permanent. 

Extraterrestrials value genetics.

What they do is they come in, conquer a race and genetically alter it. 
>From that moment on, that race is genetically altered. The genetic 
changes alter the frequency, sound and thought patterns of the race 
if they move into a physical form. Does everyone understand this?
Q: Could you give us an example of this?
AC: The best example I could give you concerns the Greys. Apparently, 
the Greys were much more human-looking at one time. What happened was 
that they, as a race, were captured 891,000 years ago while leaving 
Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 to go off and do their own thing. This is very 
common, and it is how Earth became colonized. What happened is that 
they got captured by a group in Orion that was already genetically 
altered and under control of the Alpha Draconians.
According to Moraney, the first thing this Draconian- altered Orion 
group did was slaughter almost all of the females of the captured 
race in order to control the birth process. They then genetically 
altered the remaining females, so that all the children born after 
that were genetically altered. The males were enslaved, made to work 
in mines and slaughtered by the Draconian-controlled Orion group,
who had absolutely no regard for life. What we know now as the Greys 
became a natural resource.

Time Travel Permits Altering Consciousness of a Race:

Now, I am told that the Greys would love to be absolutely free of this
hierarchy, but what they have done is that they have continued to 
propagate the problem. Now, we have been told that the Greys "have been 
here for thousands of years." According to the Andromedans, however, 
the Greys got here in 1931.
Because of their ability to time travel, it looks like they have been 
here thousands of years - they can go backwards in time. If you can go 
backwards in time you can literally alter the consciousness of any 
race. You can alter any event. That's exactly what they have done. They 
are not the only ones who have done this. There is also a group from 
Sirius B who have also done this. It took me a long time to understand 
why it was that they wanted to do this. The bottom line is that they 
wanted to control us. We have things that they want. We have the 
benefit of having been on 11th density, which means that we have covered
a very large area of spiritual evolvement - which is why our range of 
emotion is so large. They want that information. Not only that, but 
with the new frequency coming in and third density beginning to 
implode on itself, the Greys are trying to save their race. According 
to Moraney, there are only 2000 real Greys left --
all the rest are clones - organic robots. They do not carry a spiritual
essence.
Folks, we are talking about a technology thousands of years ahead of 
where we are now.

The Abduction of Humans:

The reason the Greys are doing so many abductions is (1) for genetics. 
They are trying to bring the races together. They are creating hybrids, 
most of which are females. There are very few male hybrids. The problem 
is that they have a hard time keeping them alive because spirit will not 
attach to it. The life force will not attach to it. So, they are 
abducting the human mothers and children and peeling off the vital body, 
containing the energy and feeding it to the hybrids of the same lineage. 
They are trying to create a soul, and they just can't do it, and they 
are desperate, which is why there are so many weird things happening. 
This is just one of the things that are happening. There is a huge
Grey complex conspiracy behind it. Why we agreed to do this I haven't a
clue.
[Vals Note: the permission to do it from the governments was in trade for
manipulative technology for humans to use against humans, ultimately for
upper hierarchy alien benefit of further repression of the human 
"threat"].
So this is not working and the races are dying. Now, what the Greys have
done because they are having problems with this is that they have been 
abducting large groups of human children. This is why children are 
vanishing without a trace all over the world. Some of them are being 
taken by the Greys. In Westchester County, New York, over 5,000 children 
have vanished without a trace over the last three years. The government 
knows what is going on but they are helpless to do anything about it. 
The reason they don't want to bring it up is because they let the 
bas-ards in here in the first place. They cut a deal.
They sold us out, and I've got a lot of energy on it, because I have 
friends who want to know where their kids are.
This is just one scenario. Apparently we have been manipulated for 5,724
years now. We have been manipulated beyond belief. To make matters 
worse, we have had free energy technology that has been withheld from us. 
So, for the last 100 years we have totally trashed our env-ronment.

The Rest of the Galactic Hierarchy .... and the Rest of the Story:

We'll look at the positives. There are so many that want to help. For 
those of you who are "trekkies", you know the number one rule. You 
don't intervene with an evolving race unless you're asked. That happens 
to be a reality. They will not directly intervene - at least they are not 
supposed to - unless they are specifically asked to. Those people who 
are contactees have a reincarnational lineage that leads back to many of 
these positive races, which is why it is not considered intervention.
Now, in our galaxy there are many councils. I don't know everything 
about all those councils, but I do know about the Andromedan council, 
which is a group of beings from 139 different star systems that come 
together and discuss what is going on in the galaxy. It is not a 
political body. What they have been recently discussing is the tyranny 
in our future, 357 years from now, because that affects everybody. 
Apparently what they have done, through time travel, is that they have 
been able to figure out where the significant shift in energy occurred
that causes the tyranny 357 years in our future. They have traced it 
back to our solar system, and they have been able to further track it 
down to Earth, Earth's moon and Mars. Those three places.

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Subject: The 21 Trillion Year Old Hologram. Part 3.    April 5, 1999.

  This part tells how we are being controlled.

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 The very first meeting the Andromedan council had was to decide whether 
or not to directly intervene with what was going on here. According to 
Moraney, there were only 78 systems that met this first time. Of those 
78, just short of half decided that they wanted nothing to do with us at 
all, regardless of the problems. I think it is really important that you 
know why they wanted nothing to do with us. We are talking about star 
systems that are hundreds of millions of light years away from us. Even 
some who have never met us. They just knew the vibration of the planet 
reflected those on it. The reasons why they wanted nothing to do with us 
is that from their perspective, Earth humans don't respect themselves, 
each other or the planet. What possibly can be the value of Earth humans?
Fortunately, the majority of the council gave the opinion that because 
Earth has been manipulated for over 5,700 years, that we deserved an 
opportunity to prove ourselves - to at least have a shot at proving the 
other part of the council wrong. So, the Andromedan council passed a 
directive that all extraterrestrial presence will be off our planet no 
later than August 12, 2003.
[ Vals Note: Isn't it also curious that August 12, 2003 is also a 
resonant node or the Montauk Project? - 1943, 1983, 2003 - all 20 years 
apart. Also, in 12-year progressions, 1931, 1943, 1955, 1967, 1979, 
1991, 2003. The implications are interesting. The year 2002 was also 
designated the new target date for implementation of the N-w W-rld 
O-der, one year prior to 2003] They want everything extraterrestrial 
on the planet, in the planet and Earth's moon out of here by that 
date. The reason for this is that they want to see how we will act 
when we are not being manipulated. We are all being manipulated, and
my first suggestion is to throw your television set away. I can't tell 
you how sincere I am about that. They are teaching you what to think, 
not how to think.
If you give that up, you become a robot. You become sheeple. I know 
it's going to be tough.
This determination that ET influence will end by August 12, 2003 will 
be interesting, because living inside our planet 100 to 200 miles under 
the surface are 1837 reptilians who have been here a very long time, 
17 humans from Sirius B, and 18000 Grey clones inside the Earth and on 
the moon. Most of the 2000 original Greys are on Phobos, one of the 
moons of Mars, which is an artificial satellite. There are also around 
141 Orion beings inside the Earth from 9 different races. There are a 
lot of "bad boys" here who have technology thousands of years ahead of 
us. It is estimated that Grey technology is 2,500 years ahead of us. 
The Orion group who control the Greys have technology approximately 
3,700 years ahead of us. Nobody really knows how far the Draconians are, 
because they are incredibly elusive. The group from Sirius B are
approximately 932 years ahead of us.

Forbidden Planet Redoux:

How many of you have heard of the Montauk technology? It's time travel.
Opening up time warps. Apparently, that technology was given to our 
government by the group from Sirius B. We were not supposed to have it. 
It was supposed to be another 150 years before we would have developed 
this technology ourselves.  They purposely gave us this technology, 
knowing we would abuse it. Now, I can't tell you what the mindset was 
of the humans that got this technology and started doing all this weird 
stuff with it. Within the last six weeks, Moraney has told me that the 
Andromedans have found a small Earth human military colony, containing 
families with children, in the Altair star system. They have enslaved
the beings of that planet. Montauk only works if you have exact 
coordinates.
That means somebody gave them the coordinates of the planet in the 
Altair system. The Andromedans are really upset about that. That's 
just one of the problems.

Earth Humans: The Only Race That Kills Itself:

The other problem that has evolved from this involves the human
extraterrestrial races that are benevolent. Many of the races are 
really pure - they only breed within themselves. However, there has 
been so much interbreeding between the races that they are now 
beginning to anticipate break-downs in the genetic coding. The 
Pleiadians are apparently going to start experiencing this genetic
break down in 172 linear Earth years. For the first time in hundreds of
thousands of years, they will start to see deformities at birth. The
Andromedans anticipate this problem themselves in 757 years. Now, 
there is only one race capable of giving them a genetic boost so that 
this breakdown does not occur. They say it's us. They want to make a 
proposal to borrow some of our genes, but they can't. They can't come 
near us now because of our vibratory frequency. They can't use our 
genetics right now because they currently carry the vibration of fear, 
which is not an emotion they know. The first time I walked on to one 
of their ships, a bunch of their children started to run away from me. 
They knew that I was from Earth. We have a very bad reputation, 
because we are the only race in the galaxy that kills itself, that 
turns on itself.
We are the only race that allows itself to live in poverty. We are the 
only ones who allow members of our race to starve. We are the only ones 
that allow members of the race to be homeless. We are the only race 
that would sell itself into slavery. I don't like the reflection they 
give me of us. It's not that they are judging. They just don't 
understand why we do it. If anyone's got an answer for it, I'm open. 
Yes, we've been manipulated by belief systems, but why do we believe 
these belief systems?

To Believe or Not to Believe: That is the Question:

I have asked a lot of questions about Earth, religions and our history.
Moraney has this really great way of mirroring back my questions. One 
of the things that he mirrored back to me was a question regarding the 
history of a particular religion. His response to that was "it is not 
so much what you believe in, but why you believe it." I have had to 
look at that, and I've had to go back and look at all the belief systems 
I have. Are they really mine, or are they something that I have been 
fed that I believe is true, and I am basing my perceptions on the idea 
that they are or are not true? Another time, I was feeling depressed, 
and I had a contact and I decided I didn't want to come back to Earth. 
I was made to come back, and I was very upset about that. As I was
walking away, Vasais looked at me and said, Alex, the love that you 
withhold is the pain you carry. There is not a day that goes by that 
I don't think about that - that I don't look at every decision I make 
and try to get crystal clear about why I'm making that decision, and 
where that decision is coming from inside of me. Another time, I was 
talking with Moraney and he asked me, Alex, when you are having a 
relationship, where does the love come from? When you are having a 
relationship with your family, where does that love come from? When
you are having a relationship with the universe, where does that love 
come from?
Well, the obvious answer is that it comes from me, which is what I said 
to him.
He turned back to me and asked me, why do you then believe you have a
shortage of love in your life? Again, it all goes back to belief 
systems. If they are right, we created all of this to watch how our 
thoughts can create matter.  So, in essence, everything is a belief 
system.

Space is the Place To Really See Your Face:

The Andromedans call our universe consciousness. They say that 
consciousness is the space that you create in which to evolve. So in 
other words, to continue to evolve we had to create a space in which 
to do it. That is physicality.
There is a physicality on each and every dimension. Fifth density is 
not filled with "whispering clouds." There is a genuine physicality 
to it. It's a lot different than what we have created here, but 
nevertheless it is still a physicality.

History: More of a Circle Than a Spiral:

I wanted to get back to this hierarchy for a minute, because I wanted 
to show you what was in our past and what it is today. I wanted to 
show you the similarities to illustrate that history does repeat itself 
until we decide to break cycle, and also that it has always been the 
same if you go back and look at history. If you look at Egypt, the 
Sumerians, the Babylonians, Greek mythology -- there are elements of 
truth in all of that.
In ancient days, you had the "g-ds". Mythology is littered with stories
about "the go-s", warring with each other, marrying the daughters of 
man, etc. All throughout ancient literature, there are stories like 
this. The -ods would then allow their offspring, kings or pharoahs, to 
rule in their place as they went flitting around the galaxy. The kings 
really didn't want to have much to do with the "common people", so 
they had their "priesthoods" to control information, the masses and 
accumulate wealth. The military kept the masses in order.
Whatever the dictates were, the military made sure it happened. It's 
the way it has always been, all through our ancient history. If you 
read Sitchin's information and a book called The Greatest Story Never 
Told by Lana Cantrell - I understand it's out of print - The Go-s of 
Eden by William Bramley - all this stuff is well documented.

Things Change, But They Remain the Same:

We still have basically the same situation. The ET's are still here. The
names and faces change, but they still have the same mindset - control, 
control, control. Looking at the parallels with ancient times, today 
instead of pharoahs you have presidents, prime ministers and kings. In 
terms of priesthoods, today you have religions and bankers. Those of 
you who have done research will see the power that secret societies 
have because of money, and how virtually every country on the planet is 
bankrupt, and how small groups of men are controlling everything. These 
men are apparently doing the bidding of the ET's, because the whole 
point of this coming down on this planet is to take self-rule and free
will away from us. The idea is to make things so bad on the planet that 
the masses will beg to be "saved." According to the Andromedans, if 
you do not accept self-responsibility, and you allow somebody to come 
in and "save" you, you do not permanently evolve. I'm not here to buck 
anybody's belief system.  I'm here to share with you what they've said.

Part 3.

John Winston. johnfwin@mlode.com




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Subject: The 21 Trillion Year Old Hologram.              Part 4 of 4.
April 5, 1999.

  This part tells how our Moon got here.

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Then, you've got the military. You've got nuclear weapons and techology 
far beyond anything we know. Mutually assured destruction. It's an 
interesting concept. Then, you have the masses. So, as you can see, 
nothing has really changed, except now we have ways to destroy 
ourselves. Before, the "g-ds" were more than happy to do that. They 
could change the orbit of the planet, cause pole shifts. The technology 
exists. The Draconians can literally create a solar system. They can 
move planets and take moons and put them whereever they want.
There are races that have this technology. The Andromedans have said 
that if the regressives, who have their first line of defense our moon, 
are not out of here by 2003, the Andromedans have every intention of 
putting a tractor beam on the moon and pulling it out of orbit, and 
dealing with it further out in space.
If they dealt with it where it is now, it could destroy the Earth. I 
asked them what would happen here if they removed the moon. They 
replied simply that we would have no tides, and that if we were 
really upset, they could always bring us another moon. It's that 
simple to them, but it's not to us. We need to get used to the idea 
that what we see around us is not permanent. We need to open up
our perspectives to the fact that there is a lot more going on than we
think, and that there is a lot more to learn, not only about the 
planet and solar system, but about ourselves. The Andromedans say that 
there are 100 trillion galaxies in the universe.

The Moon and Mars:

Our moon, according to the Andromedans, is an artificial satellite. I 
will tell you that a lot of people are working on this. Two years ago, 
I sat in a room with Richard Hoagland and asked him, "why don't you 
tell the people that the moon is an artificial satellite?". Richard 
Hoagland replied, "I'm not ready."
See, he knows. Why he is withholding this, I don't know. I am not
withholding it. According to the Andromedans, our moon came from a star 
system in Ursa Minor, called Chauta. It was one of four moons in a 
solar system that had 21 planets and our moon was brought from an 
orbit around the 17th planet. It was brought here, with others, during 
a war. Our moons first location in orbit in our solar system was around 
a planet called Maldek, which is now the asteroid belt. Our moon had 
nine huge domed cities on it. It had water, planet life and a
lot of different things on it. It had huge caverns underground that
sustained life, and does today, as we speak. Except now, there are a 
lot of human beings on the moon. We're going to talk about that.
Now, apparently, our moon was one of two moons in orbit around Maldek. 
The other moon orbiting Maldek we know today as Phobos, which is now 
orbiting Mars.
Our moon, after it was moved from orbit around Maldek, had its ability 
to travel disabled. The beings that were on the moon were known as 
Ari-ans, the "wh-te race." The Pleiadians apparently were responsible 
for moving our moon to an orbit around Earth. So, the Ari-ans that 
came here on our moon were in fact Maldekians, one of the lost tribes 
of Lyrae, who today are living underground on Earth in Tibet. They 
pretty much keep to themselves. If you research ancient Tibetan 
literature, you will find that they admit who lives under there.

JW  That is all I have of this material so far.

Part 4 of 4.

John Winston.  johnfwin@mlode.com




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