From fortfan@aol.comSat Apr 1 09:53:53 1995
Date: 12 Mar 1995 17:34:27 -0500
From: FORTFAN
Reply to: prj@mail.msen.com
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: FINDERS DOCS (PART 1)
Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 10:58:08 -0500 (EST)
Resent-From: James Daugherty
Resent-To: prj@mail.msen.com
-=BEGIN PART III=-
REPORT NUMBER 1, PAGE 1 OF 3
To: Resident Agent in Charge Date: 021287
From: Special Agent
Subject: Finders
This office was contacted by the Tallahassee Police Department
on February 5, 1987, who requested assistance in attempting to
identify two adult males and six minor children, all taken into
custody the previous day. The men, arrested and charged with
multiple counts of child abuse, were being very evasive with
police in the questions being asked of them pursuant the
children and their condition.
This agent contacted SS/A, [deleted], RAC/Reston, Virginia, and
requested telephone numbers and names of police persons in area
police departments in an attempt to follow-up on two leads
which were a Virginia license number and that the children had
commented about living in a Washington, D.C., commune.
Subsequently, this office received a telephone call from the
Washington, D.C. Metrpolitan Police Department inquiring about
the men and children. This office put the MPD and the TPD in
contact with each other.
PAGE 2 OF 3
DETAILS OF INVESTIGATION:
On Thursday, February 5, 1987, this office was contacted via
telephone by sergeant, [deleted] of the Tallahassee Police
Department, Juvenile Division. Sgt. [deleted] requested
assistance in identifying two adult males and six minor
children ages 7 years to 2 years.
The adult males were tentatively identified by TPD as Michael
HOULIHAN and Douglas AMMERMAN, both of Washington, D.C., who
were arrested the previous day on charges of child abuse.
The police had received an anonymous telephone call relative
two well-dressed white men wearing suits and ties in Myers
Park, (Tallahassee), apparently watching six dirty and unkempt
children in the playground area. HOULIHAN and AMMERMAN were
near a 1980 Blue Dodge van bearing Virginia license number
XHW-557, the inside of which was later described as
foul-smelling filled with maps, books, letters, with a mattress
situated to the rear of the van which appeared as if it were
used as a bed, and the overall appearance of the van gave the
impression that all eight persons were living in it.
The children were covered with insect bites, were very dirty,
most of the children were not wearing underwear and all of the
children had not been bathed in many days.
The men were arrested and charged with multiple counts of child
abuse and lodged in the Leon County Jail. Once in custody the
men were somewhat evasive in their answers to the police
regarding the children and stated only that they both were the
children's teachers and that all were enroute to Mexico to
establish a school for brilliant children.
The children tentatively were identified as Mary HOULIHAN,
white female, age 7; Max LIVINGSTON, white male, age 6;
Benjamin FRANKLIN, white male, age 4; HoneyBee EVANS, white
female, age 3; B.B., white male, age 2; and that they lived in
tents in a commune in the Washington, D.C., area and were going
to Mexico to go to a school for smart kids.
This office contacted the Office of the RAC/DC and spoke with
SS/A, [deleted]. This agent requested telephone numbers and
names of police persons in area departments that might be aware
of said activities described by the children and to follow-up
on leads which were the Virginia license number and a check on
the men's names with local law enforcement.
PAGE 3 OF 3
A short time later this office was contacted by Detective,
[deleted] of the Washington, D.C., Metrpolitan Police
Department. [deleted] indicated that the case here in
Tallahassee appeared to be strongly related to a case he was
currently working in the Washington, D.C. area.
He stated that the actions of the two men in custody in
Tallahassee relative the children just might give his case
enough probable cause for search warrants to search premises
occupied by a cult group called the FINDERS.
This agent directed [deleted] to telephone TPD and discuss with
police directly any activities forthcoming relative the instant
case.
At this time it was determined that there was no Customs
violations found to exist and therefore, this case is being
closed pending receipt of additional information.
ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY LESD/TECS: Create a permanent DRR/TECS
record.
IDENTIFYING DATA/TECS-FIN QUERIES:
AMMERMAN, Douglas Edward SUBSTANTIATED NCIC: Negative
(CF-23B attached) TECS: "
CMIR: "
CTR : "
FBA : "
PAIRS: Negative
HOWELL, James Michael SUBSTANTIATED NCIC: Negative
(CF-23B attached) TECS: "
CMIR: "
CTR : "
FBA : "
PAIRS: Negative
"FINDERS" ALLEGED NCIC: Negative
(CF-23B attached) TECS: "
CMIR: "
CTR : "
FBA : "
PAIRS: Negative
MEMO TO FILE
To: Resident Agent in Charge Date: 02/07/87
From: Special Agent
Subject: Customs cooperation/interest in Tallahassee/Washington
MPD child abuse investigation.
On Thursday, 2/5/87, the duty agent, SS/A [deleted], received a
call from SS/A [deleted], USCS, Tallahassee, Florida. SS/A
[deleted] was seeking assistance in contacting an appropriate
local police agency to coordinate a child abuse investigation
in with the Tallahassee Police Department. SS/A [deleted]
further requested assitance in checking some names, addresses
and a vehicle through the Customs Child Pornography Unit data
base, and stated there was some suspicion of the subjects being
involved in supplying children for the production of child
pornography. Further, he was informed by the Tallahassee Police
Department that the children may have been enroute to Mexico
from the Washington, D.C. area. The possibility of Customs
interest in the investigation due to possible violations of the
Child Protection Act of 1984, and the alleged nexus with the
U.S./Mexican Border were discussed and agreed upon. SS/A
[deleted] related the following background information. SS/A
[deleted] was contacted by the Tallahassee Police Department
for assistance in identifying six children and two adults taken
into custody in the Tallahassee area. U.S. Customs was
contacted because the police officers involved suspected the
adults of being involved in child pornography and knew the
Customs Service to have a network of child pornography
investigators, and of the existance of the Child Pornography
and Protection Unit. SS/A [deleted] stated the two adults were
well dressed white males. They had custody of six white
children (boys and girls), ages three to six years. The
children were observed to be poorly dressed, bruised, dirty,
and behaving like wild animals in a public park in Tallahassee.
The police were notified by a concerned citizen and all eight
persons were taken into custody. The subjects were living out
of a white 1979 Dodge van, Virginia license no. XHW 557. Upon
being taken into custody, the adult white males refused to
cooperate, one of whom produced a "business" card with a name
on one side and a statement on the other. The statement
indicated that the bearer knew his constitutional rights to
remain silent and that he intended to do so. Upon interviewing
the children, the police officers found that they could not
adequately identify themselves or their custodians. Further,
they stated that they were enroute to Mexico to attend a school
for "smart kids." SS/A [deleted] was further advised the
children were unaware of the function and purpose of
telephones, televisions and toilets, and that the children had
stated they were not allowed to live indoors and were only
The _Other_ Bob
From
The Fortean Research Center BBS (402) 488-2587
(Speaking only for myself)
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